Leadership and Crafting the Customer Experience in Consumer Goods with Kathy Tobiasen

Overview

“I have a passion for customer service and customer care, and I know that I have high expectations.” says Kathy Tobiasen, VP of Customer Experience at The Nature’s Bounty Company. “When I give a company my money. I expect to be treated a certain way when I’m buying their products and services, and that’s my goal as I approach this work.”

In this episode, Kathy talks to me about her path to the role of leader of customer experience. We chat about the interesting application of “CX” inside both the packaged goods business operation, and the customer experience delivered.

Be Deliberate About Crafting the Customer Experience

LEADERSHIP AND CRAFTING THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE IN CONSUMER GOODS WITH KATHY TOBIASENKathy is responsible for managing and creating good customer experiences from end to end for The Nature’s Bounty Company, which is a global manufacturer of vitamins and supplements. During Kathy’s CX implementation process, she realized that as an organization, they were allowing the customer experience to happen versus being deliberate in facilitating the overall experience; it was time to change that.

Their customer experience was happening in silos, so the journey was broken. To begin the process, Kathy and her team aligned silos across functional groups, which included understanding inventory and supply levels, distribution and warehouse teams, marketing, merchandising, customer care, and tech and operations.

How Kathy and her team assessed the work to be done:

Know Your Customer Growth, Loss, and Retention

Leadership and Crafting the Customer Experience in Consumer Goods with Kathy Tobiasen

Kathy mentioned that a major takeaway she got from my book, Chief Customer Officer 2.0, is the importance of understanding your customer growth. You need to know: is it going up, is it going down? Where are you losing/gaining customers? Kathy was able to compile this data and create a customer health dashboard. It’s critical for her to know which customers are new, lost, lapsed, reactivated.

Once this information has been gathered, Kathy had to get all of the right people in the room to define who these different customers are. She had to unite leadership and teams in understanding the term definitions, the source of the information, and implications of the data. 

Define the Customer Journeys and Their Business Impact

Leadership and Crafting the Customer Experience in Consumer Goods with Kathy TobiasenDuring the first year of implementation, Kathy had to translate the customer experience into the language of business. This is where you leverage the data so you can learn how to manage customers as assets. She and her team had to explain to executive leadership what was happening from a customer point of view and have them care about it. Once they got past this stage, they were able to set clear KPIs for customer growth to be measured across the organization.

Of course, there were some first year challenges. This included gaining alignment around what the CX role is and what they actually do. Her team got a few wins under their belt in the beginning by solving some organizational problems as a cross-functional team to help define their position.

Kathy and her team positioned themselves as a group that’s there to help the functional groups create great customer and employee experiences. In efforts to unite all teams and improve CX, they’re there to help with heavy lifting on driving decisions, research, and documentation.

During this implementation process, they were able to define 3 primary journeys and their business impact:

  1. Retain new customers and look at the challenges faced here.
  2. Launch a loyalty program – Recognize their purchase behavior and automatically reward them for it. Our way of saying thank you for being a customer without them having to do work. I expect the company I’m buying from consistently to know me. That’s the key. We need to know our customers and treat them appropriately.
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  3. Apology win-back journey – When vitamins and supplements aren’t available, customers lose trust and they go someplace else to get them. Start developing consumer insights: why did you leave and how can we earn their trust back?

What Do You Know Now That You Wish You Knew Then?

Kathy says:

About Kathy Tobiasen

Leadership and Crafting the Customer Experience in Consumer Goods with Kathy TobiasenKathy Tobiasen has spent her career serving customers in both B2B and B2C organizations including Computer Associates, Kaplan Inc., and The Nature’s Bounty Co. Her career started on the frontlines working on helpdesks, customer service, inside sales and has grown into leading customer-facing organizations. She has a passion for delivering thoughtful, caring experiences and building teams with the same focus. Kathy earned a bachelors in business administration from Concordia College in Bronxville, New York. 

 

1 comment to " Leadership and Crafting the Customer Experience in Consumer Goods with Kathy Tobiasen "

  • Kathy Tobiasen

    Thank you so much, Jeanne, for this opportunity to speak with you and share my story. The experiences and guidance you share in your books and podcasts have shaped how I approach the customer experience role, and it’s had a tremendous positive impact. Keep doing what you do!

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